As a left handed USP 45 owner, I wish they made the ambi decocking lever standard on all models. YMMV. 282, Henderson, NV 89014, U.S. NAVY MK18 MOD O CUSTOM CLOSE QUARTER COMBAT WEAPON FOR THE SEAFARING SERVICE, Recreational Use Of 40MM Grenade Launchers, Customizing the Already Custom SIG P320 Spectre Comp, THE RUGER / MAC MKI: VIETNAMS SILENT SERVICE, A Fading Star: The star S135 Submachine Gun, That is. I was carrying my USP 45 Expert in a drop leg holster, with a HK light, and a lanyard attached to it, and my score at the end of the night would have put me in second place in the top division (unlimited A division or something like that). It's completely superficial, but I prefer the looks of the Expert over the Elite. A vision of graceful lines, proportion and manner that stir the soul, form a wistful smile on the face, and conjure a silent note of gratitude to the gods. 642230248304. The Expert has the same features as the USP Tactical, but has no threaded barrel. HK Expert- Good Grip. Germany HK USP For Sale $0.77, Review, Price - In Stock - Gun Critic Sort By Default Most Recent Oldest Price: Low to High Price: High to Low Rating Showing 1-6 of 6 items HK USP 45 Expert 12 Round $1,309.00 (Save up to 15%) Price $1,119.00 81000364 Heckler and Koch (HK) Copyright 1996-2023 AR15.COM LLC. I've owned an Elite for a couple of months and have probably put about 200 rounds through mine. Though I'm suddenly seeing my p30 or the hk45 in the slides mid section on the elite. I bought it used with night sights so I can't really comment on the stock sights. Note the large barrel weight. HK USP 45 Expert For Sale - Omaha Outdoors TNVC/NGI Giveaway: 15 winners with over $7000 worth of prizes!! Not really something that I enjoy shooting because the grip is not that comfortable and there is a decent amount of felt recoil. You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers. Are you in the know?Stay up to date with the latest articles. Safety markings are on the control lever, and a white index mark on the frame points to which feature is engaged. That literally means magazine funnel, but HK Oberndorf officially calls the mag well a Jet Funnel in English. © WeaponSystems.net | All rights reserved. Would rather have both. HK USP For Sale - Buds Gun Shop It has been flawless. Voted Expert just for looks. It features a longer barrel and slide. Excellent - 95%+ condition with or without box. It has, adjustable sights, a threaded barrel and a really nice match trigger. That's kind of cool. Both will match the accuracy of the 'cookie cutter 1911 Nighthawk'. Originally designed for the American market, the USP (Universal Self-loading Pistol) quickly found international acclaim as an accurate and ultra-reliable handgun. In the last 12 months there is great demand for a HK USP Elite and most semi-auto pistols. USP stands for Universal Self-loading Pistol. I assume the concern that the Expert's grip may be wider and harder to hold > it is not. Along with high strength glass fiber reinforced polyamide frame with stainless steel inserts that reinforces high-stress areas increasing overall durability and strength. Page 1 of 2 1 2 > Thread Tools Display Modes # 2 05-09-2017, 11:36 PM Voted Expert just for looks. HK USP ELITE 45 - IS IT STILL THE ONE? - YouTube The barrel employs the same elastomer O-ring as the Expert, located just behind the muzzle as an interface between the barrel and slide that significantly improves the weapons accuracy. Heckler Koch USP9 Expert V1 9mm Pistol 81000362 / 709080 . USP9 9mm 15rd magazine, standard floorplate. The barrel on the USP Elite features the Mark 23s type of elastomer O-ring just behind the muzzle. Revolver Review: Korth Ranger - Another Korth Hit! Yes, it is pretty soft shooting. Excellent balance HK .45 with threaded barrel and protector- Similar to the HK Expert but better grip and just as good balance. A Merkle weight will hide it and tames the pistol considerably (not that it recoils much anyway). Notify me about new product releases, reviews, and coupon codes. The 9s use USP mags as well. If money is not an object, I'd recommend the Expert. 9am-6pm CST Tue-Fri, 2023 Omaha Outdoors, LLC. AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own. I agree the Expert looks better but the Elite grows on you. Both the Expert and Elite accept high capacity magazines (18 rounds in 9mm). The O-ring provides an interface between the barrel and slide that significantly improves the weapons accuracy. USP Expert 45 cal vs. Standard USP | HKPRO Forums HK'S EURO-RACEGUNS: THE ELITE AND EXPERT by SAR Staff August 2, 2022 in Articles, V6N1 (Oct 2002), Volume 6 HK created the USP Elite pistol by stretching the Expert's 5.2 inch barrel to 6.0 inches and adding a sleek new target slide. We also house many pistols of the VP9, P30, P200, and HK45 lines. Picked up a cool HK USP Elite 9mm :):) - Glock Talk Guarantees long service life and outstanding shooting accuracy. An ambidextrous safety enhances safety and performance in events where the shooter must engage targets with the weak hand. And fancy o ring. The HK USP jet funnel is a target and competition shooters best friend as it allows faster reload under time-constrained, high-pressure action. I'm gonna put night sights on the Expert, so it will be one of my night stand and occassional carry gun too. Heckler & Koch H&K USP Expert V1 9mm 4.25" 15+1 Black Black Steel Slide Black Polymer Grip $ Remove from Compare Add to Compare. I have small hands and must shift the grip of the firing hand in order to manipulate the magazine release with the thumb. The trigger stop limits trigger travel after the sear releases the trigger. Knife Review: Boker's Tank-Made Blades - A Piece of Living History! Great shooting pistols and I may add the 9mm variants at some point. The USP Expert is a variant of the full size USP pistol designed for target shooting and optimized for accuracy. Key word is OWNED. I've always called the Elite the porpoise nose. 49. Charles_zzz 3 yr. ago. HK USP Guns For Sale | Heckler & Koch USP - Top Gun Supply The slide then continues its rearward movement to complete the extraction, ejection and reloading sequence. Exactly. Features favored by U.S. law enforcement and military users provided the design criteria for the USP. USP9 Expert vs. Elite? - AR15.COM HK USP | HK USP For Sale - Omaha Outdoors Push the lever down and the index mark points to a red F for FIRE. The HK USP 45 Elite pistol features a cold hammer-forged barrel with a highly accurate polygonal bore, a patented buffer system to mitigate recoil, a target trigger with an adjustable trigger stop, and an adjustable recessed rear sight. I have a USP .45 Expert. The Elite is the least common version of the USP and is produced in limited quantities. Fair - 30% - 80% condition, parts, and finish may or may not be original. I own both. During the development of the Elite, HK took features preferred by U.S. law enforcement and military to design the best target pistol for American shooter. I do have an elite in 9mm because I could not find an expert. Usp elite 45 vs. usp expert 45 vs. hk45ct : r/HecklerKoch - Reddit HK USP Elite For Sale $1080.76, Review, Price - In Stock - Gun Critic I have the same dilemma. The same within the frame. The incorporation of the USPs recoil-reduction system should come as no surprise because the Expert is very similar to the USP9 (which was introduced in September 1993). Specialized models of the USP include threaded barrel tactical variants and a long slide Expert model ideal for competitive shooting and precision handgun applications. Can't go wrong with either. The Elite took the Expert's 5.2 inch barrel and redesigned it to create an even more accurate pistol by stretching it to 6 inches along with a sleek new target slide. (IMO) I found no significant difference in their accuracy (in my hand or benched). The slide can still be manipulated (a round can be loaded) with the weapon set on SAFE. A modular Jet Funnel speeds magazine changes, and the extended magazine-well can be easily removed to use 10-round magazines. HK proprietary mounting grooves allow a variety of accessories to be mounted to the pistol. SARP.O. The barrel weight is attached to the accessory rail under the barrel. The beatings will continue until morale improves. Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more. HK Elite .45 vs. HK Expert .45 vs. HK 45 Tactical - HKPRO Forums Besides the all-important smile that melts your heart, there are the artistic yet functional creations of the human spirit that appear so beautiful on so many levels that you know deep in your bones that this creation approaches perfection. Almost piston-like when the slide comes back, hard to explain. The slide is contoured in a distinctive fashion forward of the frame to reduce weight and improve balance. From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm. Other than a slightly longer barrel, the Elite appears to be a very close sibling to the Expert. HK created the USP Elite pistol by stretching the Expert's 5.2 inch barrel to 6.0 inches and adding a sleek new target slide. Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. Using available conversion kits, this 45 ACP handgun can be converted into 9mm for added versatility, and its modular internal parts allow you to switch the control lever function to the left or right side of the gun, facilitating the needs of left-handed shooters. You guys might change your mind about the Elite if you have the Merkle weight on it. Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. I have and have owned a boat load of USP's. The Price for a HK USP Elite has increased in cost by $0.00 in 2023 compared to 2022. If you only shoot at Targets less than 100 feet then the Expert is all you need to own. The USP Match was developed for sport shooters. Both pistols are extremely accurate and have a 3.5# trigger in single action. Yeah, they would stick out, and you could not use HK45C mag in the Elite as they would be too short, but it would be nice if I had extra mags to use in the HK45C via the Elite. All USPs use a fiber-reinforced polymer frame stiffened by stainless steel inserts at areas subject to stress and friction. You really can't go wrong with either. Location: Northern California SF Bay Area East Bay. Normally I shoot 9mm 100x more than 45, but I love shooting the 45 expert. Using jet funnel magazines it also has a higher magazine capacity than the original USP. No restocking fee on new and unopened items. I also own several very high end 1911's. The Expert is every bit the FS USP and more. The USP Match is no longer produced. I fired 134rds through my Expert today at lunch. = more fun at longer distances! Any conditions. VERY accurate and feels quite unlike anything else I've shot. The Mark 23 if you are wanting historical/military significance-go with that. IMHO, the match trigger is that much better. My Elite now has LPA fiber optic sights and I have a weight for it that I still need to pick up. The pistol also incorporates a passive disconnector safety.The USP Expert also differs from its Browning heritage because the Experts magazine release differs from Browning designs in that it does not take the form of a push button, but rather a small lever that is pushed down to release the drop-free magazine. longer barrel ,longer sight radius. I hadn't used mine in quite some time, so I took it out yesterday. The Elite also employs a match trigger with an adjustable trigger stop and high-profile fully adjustable front and rear target sights. Using a modified Browning-type action with a special patented recoil reduction system, the USP recoil reduction system reduces recoil effects on pistol components and also lowers the recoil forces felt by the shooter. You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers. Pistol Review: Wilson Combat's Special Edition CQB - Commemorating 45 Years! Last but not least, if you're going to carry this daily, I would say no manual safety. I like the trigger so much that I had my full size USP9 and USP40 triggers converted to the match trigger. Discuss your favorite California handgun technical and related questions here. Pistol Review: HK's USP Elite - Somarriba The Jet Funnel can be removed, so residents of the United States can use restricted capacity 10-round magazines. 9s are all over the place but I've not seen a NIB version for under 2k. Simply oil the O-ring after cleaning the weapon and replace if necessary. If the Elite is more refined, I can't think of how it would be. The USP can also be converted from one type of trigger firing mode to another. They are both excellent shooters (far better than the standard USP). Using jet funnel magazines it also has a higher magazine capacity than the original USP. They were having an IPSC shoot that night, so I signed up for ****s and giggles. Originally designed for the American market, the USP (Universal Self-loading Pistol) quickly found international acclaim as an accurate and ultra-reliable handgun. The hammer system features a lever that rotates upward when the trigger is pressed; this action depresses the spring-loaded firing spring safety and allows the striker to move forward. Adjustments can be made with a 1.5 mm socket wrench that is supplied with the pistol. The benefits of the Expert are with the length and the longer sight radius, adjustable sights, ambi-safety (hence the width spec), O-ring barrel, and match trigger. Anyone own an HK USP 45 Elite? | Glock Talk The control lever has both a safety and decocking function. What does that mean? Tactical all the way. We will notify you when the product arrives back in stock. Accessory magazine jet funnels are also available for 9 mm and .40 S&W USP Tacticals and USP Expert models. I always thought the elite looked like a retarded dolphine on the nose. The 45s I've seen around 1200 new. The Expert, for all the reasons previously mentioned, and the fact that the Elite looks ugly with the big anteater nose on the end of it. All specialized models include a match grade trigger, match grade sights with elevation and windage adjustment, and an O-ring barrel for optimal barrel-to-slide lockup. The P35, on the other hand, uses Brownings locking grooves milled into the barrel and slide to lock the breach during the high-pressure phase of the action cycle.Upon ignition, combustion gases simultaneously push the bullet down the barrel and the empty case backward against the breech face. Would want to carry it though. Thanks to the U.S. ban on large-capacity magazines, and the fact that these guns are optimized for high-cap magazines, the Expert and Elite are not imported through normal channels. I would like to add a question. They use the same receiver, and as already pointed out, the extra width is only the ambidextrous safety. They are. The barrel features the same elastomer O-ring as the Expert, located just behind the muzzle as an interface between the barrel and slide that significantly improves the weapons accuracy. # 3 05-09-2017, 11:43 PM Strykeback Senior Member Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Trigger is not on a par with a high end 1911, but is still very nice. The long barrel didn't seem properly weighted for the gun. I LOVE the match trigger, though. 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If not, go with the elite as that is almost half the price as a mark 23 and every bit as good of a shooter. The match trigger is really sweet. The grip is essentially the same on all USPs within the same caliber despite the slide length. The way I see the Elites, is one day ill get them and they will stay NIB. In terms of real-world performance, HKs USP Elite delivers on that promise. Other nifty features include an extractor that also functions as a loaded-chamber indicator, HKs patented recoil-reduction system that is standard in full-sized USP variants, and an adjustable trigger stop. Prices seem soft for what you are getting. It is the ultimate out-of-the-box 9mm target pistol in my experience.Advanced collectors who would like to own an HK Expert or Elite pistol should contact Capital City Firearms. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. USP Elite will be cheaper by far. Shotgun Review: Beretta 687 Diamond Pigeon - Exceptional Quality & Craftsmanship! The benefits of the Expert are with the length and the longer sight radius, adjustable sights, ambi-safety (hence the width spec), O-ring barrel, and match trigger. . I used the search and this did not come up so please forgive me. Developed with the help of several internationally successful competitors, HKs first foray into this field produced a pistol called the USP Expert, which was introduced in 1998. The reason I looked at these and not the regular usp is the match trigger. I have a problem waiting when special ordering, though. It functions effectively in all USP models. The controls are uniquely influenced by such famous designs as the Government model 1911 pistol. Remington Subsonic 9mm 147 Grain FNEB Amm Smith & Wesson M&P 15-22 10 Round Short M HK USP 45 ACP 12-Round Magazine with Finger Rest.
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