12 pistol upper w/ pepper pot brake $921.99 from Midwayusa. Im having a hard enough time deciding on my first new rifle without all these new calibers and models popping up left and right. The chart below compares how much a 10 mile per hour crosswind impacts those same .450 Bushmaster, .458 SOCOM, 50 Beowulf, and .45-70 loads out to 300 yards. Finally got to the range and guess what. They give you basically the same punch as a short-action cartridge (at least for a couple of hundred yards) but keep the package small. Any way you want it, the .50 Beowulf is a reloaders delight because of its case design and the ready availability of .50 caliber bullets. Both very capable at 150-200yds. I agree with 2 MOA, which is roughly what mine shoots, but mine wears Troy back up iron sights. The reason Mr. A went with the 7.6239 head size was, per an interview he did about it, because thats the largest he could make an AR bolt without significantly weakening the lugs. A regular .223 rifle will deliver between two and four foot-pounds of recoil, usually in the three-plus range for most loads. There isnt a single big game rifle in the world that can do 10% of what the Beowulf can do which is reason enough but what other reason should you need than its a FIFTY CALIBER AR15!!! The performance of the 50 Beowulf drops off considerably past 150 yards as the bullet goes subsonic at this range. Grendel and his cranky mom have already been dispatched by the Beowulf, but theres still plenty of perfectly good applications for this thumper. The perfect niche for such a weapon that otherwise seems unnecessary, but fills a specific role most dont consider better than most other rifles can. In fact, at first glance the Beowulf looks like any other AR-15, save for a heavy barrel that looks like it was borrowed from a shotgun and a shoebox size tank-style muzzle brake pinned (in Massachusetts) to the muzzle. In terms of ballistic coefficient, the 458 SOCOM has the highest at 0.236, followed by the Bushmaster at 0.21, and the Beowulf at 0.15. While comfort was totally dependent on technique, ease of shooting accurately was somewhat dependent on the lower. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v257/knitepoet/Hunting/bullet2.jpg. The .50 Beowulf load features a 200-grain ARX bullet that leaves the muzzle at 2,500 feet per second, yielding 2,776 foot-pounds of kinetic energy.Precision One loads a round using Hornadys 350-grain XTP Magnum hollow point projectile. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v257/knitepoet/Hunting/bullet1.jpg, Heres the recovered slug, bullet is a 335 Ranier HP in my handloads @ 1812 MV, range was a lased 41 yards, deer dropped at the shot with one back leg kick And its an AR, so you get all the bennies like box magazines, accessory rails, adjustable stocks and aftermarket performance-enhancing parts. For elk, the Beowulf is limited to 100-yard shots and 150 yards for deer. M1 Garand vs. AR-15: Which is America's Rifle? But I do love my big bores , tough choice I had to indulge in all . Unlike Mike Schulte, Ive never had any issues with mine. But theres really nothing stopping you from feeding it through the ejection port. Half the fun of old cars is the manual transmission. I have used different lowers with the same result. Alexander Arms will sell you .50 Beowulf mags that they claim will not handle 5.56 ammo. Only if I can get it in a pistol version. . If you want to have multiple rounds ready to go, they have to be roughly the same length as the 5.56 to fit through the hole in the bottom. Factory ammo from Alexander Arms will run you around $1.70/round while custom ammo for hunting or personal defense will typically cost around $3/round. Why does it belong in your AR collection? Practical Applications 300 Blackout was designed as a combat cartridge, but it also has found a role in home defense and hunting. To get us all on the same page, heres the social-media-friendly, condensed version of the story. 5.56 vs 300 Blackout | The Ultimate AR Caliber Showdown! Would work nicely should I luck out and draw a moose permit. I also hear tell that its a fine platform for traditional rounds such as the .243 Winchester, .260 Remington, .338 Federal, 7mm-08 Remington, the little .22 LR, handgun calibers such as the 9mm and 45 ACP, and, for all I know, would make a great base for a phased plasma rifle in the 40 megawatt range. 450 Bushmaster vs 458 SOCOM vs 50 Beowulf: Big Bore AR Cartridges I got mine when they first came out. BEST OF ALL: This message is generic and is incapable of knowing which one applies to your order. AND ONE of these is the reason you got this message. Because I can! in the Beowulf, the fun of which I can understand. Not enough accuracy? Even Arnold cant handle fifty cal, right? .50 cal sabot slugs from a semi auto 12 gauge arent all that much different. Its not new Ive owned my AA 50 wulf upper for 7 years or so. The camera shake is the result of Dave standing too close to, and in perfect alignment with, the backwash from the muzzle brake. The numbers for 300 grain .50 Beowulf are almost 1900 fps at the muzzle and 1400 fps at 100 yards, bringing a load of about 2300 and 1400 lb.-ft., respectively. Two out of three testers subjectively felt that the carbine seemed to shoot a tad more easily with a first class two stage trigger and A2-type stock. Regardless of which cartridge you choose, make sure you get all your ammunition here at Ammo.com and get out to the range so you are always ready to defend freedom should the need arise. While the bolt carrier, firing pin and little bits seem familiar, the bolt face is sized for the 7.6339, which has a larger rim than the 5.56. But, Sir Isaac Newtown giveth as much as he taketh away. (Emphasis on OH yeahhhhh). The .50 Beowulf is interchangeable with AR-15 lowers and uses box mags. In the chart below, we will compare muzzle velocity, kinetic energy, and bullet drop for each cartridge assuming a 100 yard zero. 3. Ive also spoken with him on the phone when I was having some trouble with my Grendel, hes a great person to deal with. A Safety Harbor .50BMG upper would also be nice. The .45-70 is too long to fit into the mag well of an AR-15. If a related requirement calls for going into vehicle interiors without using the handles meaning right through the doors or body, the same benefits apply. In contrast, the 50 Beowulf has a 0.447 diameter rim which is the same as another round made by Alexander Arms, the 6.5 Grendel. However, the 450 Bushmaster has a flatter trajectory as it fires lighter bullets at higher muzzle velocities. Thats reasonable to me, but to you maybe not. I found some ammo in stock at http://www.Detroitammoco.com they are using some plastic tipped ammo that I havent seen before. Wonder what that would do. The soft case isnt long enough to comfortably close on the gun WITH the tank muzzle brake. they are tools use the right one for the job . So much the better. cant wait to read your next review. Sure there are the other two members of the big three but only the Beowulf actually matches the ballistics of the .45-70 and if you have a job that needs a big hammer, why not use the biggest, meanest, most powerful hammer in the toolbox? As a matter of fact Bill Alexander built it for hog hunting. I cant leave my 12ga or big bore lever loaded in the truck when driving around. In doing so, I am debating / weighing the pros and cons of the 3 heaviest calibers available for the AR platform, those being the .50 Beowulf by Alexander Arms, the .450 Bushmaster (by Bushmaster, obviously) and, the .458 SOCOM. Like muzzle velocity, the 30-06 was more efficient at conserving kinetic energy at range than the 450 Bushmaster. I felt it was too good a deal to pass up, and I have been wanting to build a pistol version for some time now. Trying to decide between these 2 rifles for my next rifle. I placed the order on a Friday and on Saturday my next door neighbor, who owns a big gun shop in Punxsutawney, PA, faxed the paperwork. Just to make sure were all on the same page when it comes to the .50 Beowulf and its namesake, we all studied Beowulf in high school, right? Some observations: the pictures upper looks like the 16 Advanced Weapons System upper with the tank brake muzzle brake. JavaScript seems to be disabled in your browser. 86# doe, shot in the left shoulder, the lump you see is the bullet under the hide on the off side. in this video we compare the 308 winchester. A standard .50 BMG cartridge fires a full metal jacket (FMJ) bullet weighing 647 grain, nearly double some of the 50 Beowulf bullets. However, the chart below will give you a general idea of how much recoil each cartridge imparts on the shooter. The areas I hunt require either a shotgun or a rifle, and semi-auto rifles are not permitted in either jurisdiction (PA and Sweden). For hunting deer sized game I'd rather use a 223 with a good bullet. Simply grab the complete lower and optics that you already have, order your choice of Beowulf uppers, and wait. S**t. If yours is anything like mine, its already too long. For its intended uses, thats plenty accurate enough. This not only allows use of a more standard bolt, but it also allows that bolt to have enough metal on it to withstand pressure over time and use.As for the launcher part, Alexander Arms offers both complete upper receivers and fully-built rifles. The 450 Bushmaster is also unique in the fact that there are single shot and bolt-action rifles available for hunters that are required to use these firearms whereas the 458 and 50 are relegated to the AR-15 platform only. On the other hand, development of the 458 SOCOM began in 2000 in response to a conversation (supposedly at a barbecue) between Marty Ter Weeme of Teppo Jutsu LLC and a member of the United States Special Operations Command (SOCOM) surrounding the ineffectiveness of the 5.56 NATO round in the Battle of Mogadishu in 1993. Between the two, the 50 would be a fun gun while the 300 can be used for hunting and such. Both the uppers and rifles are priced reasonably. In contrast, as the 450 is SAAMI certified, there are considerably more rifle options including bolt-action rifles like the Ruger American and Savage 110. I use the plated rainier 330grn bullets most the time in the Beowulf, they are around $0.20 a piece. In fact, to plan my most recent build which is intended as a hunting rifle, I weighed the pros and cons of 300, 6.8, 6.5G, 277 Wolverine, 25-45 Sharps, 50 Beowulf, 7.62x39, and stepping up to an AR-10 in 308 for a deer and hog rifle. The T shirt didnt arrive. The 450 Bushmaster (or 450 BM) was developed by Tim LeGendre of LeMAG Firearm. Being ,self indulgent, I have both. I'm pleased with my 300 BLK, waiting on the stamp to put a rifle stock on it. Slim Fit Leather Jackets is an online store that sells jackets for men and women with free shipping all over the world! And like .45-70 Govt., you can expect some pretty dramatic drop and loss of velocity at long . Why a .50 Beowulf? Speaking of box magazines, the company offers an optimized version but the round will work with standard GI magazines. You have to use a long action AR-10 platform because the 243 is nothing more than a necked down 7.62 NATO cartridge. It is also the most important factor when computing kinetic energy. We didnt fling a ton of lead downrange, so I cant represent our testing as a full 500 round shoulder crushing shoot em up. Yes, precisely. CR42 Hunting 7.5K subscribers Subscribe 1.1K Share 50K views 1 year ago 308 vs 50 Beowulf - penetration test. Enter the big bore, semi-auto rifle, that doesnt need a ton of range. Ill be hitting the gun show this weekend. Originally Posted By boltedsafe: $150.00 3" chambered 12 gauge pump with Brenneke Black Magic Magnum (12 GA 3") Slugs. There are lots of .45 caliber bullet choices for reloading. The .50 Beowulf has oodles of the former and just enough of the latter. If you go the upper receiver route on a lower of your own, youll need the installed barrel with the much bigger hole. Pull the rifle in tight and theres a big shove awaiting your glenohumeral joint. Anyone have any advise? The 5.45-inch 50 BMG round is much larger than the 50 Beowulf. If hunting is the point, there are at least three saboted .50 caliber 375-385 grain bullets (Rems Accutip, for example, or Winchester Partition Gold) that provide similar velocities and greater energy. Take a moment to recall the 3,182 lines of alliterative verse poetry written in unintelligible Old English. Add your M-LOK handguard, KeyMod front end, or other rifle accessories as you deem fit. Ammo cost is also an issue, but not as big an issue as you might think. The first time I ever got to shoot steel plates with it was awesome. My 300BLK suppressed sbr is a bit more than just a "fun gun" for me. Matched with Starline brass cases, this one is rated at 1,830 feet per second.If you want to go straight to the source, Alexander Arms offers a variety of options for different purposes. Whats even less obvious is that the Alexander upper has an enlarged ejection port. The 50 Beowulf lists its maximum overall length as 2.25. @505markf, I love lever guns and I really enjoy shooting the .45 Govt. On the plus side, it is a high quality stainless steel barrel. 7.62x39 Rifles ; 7.62x39 Pistols . Guess Im one of the few who noticed. Picked up a 338 Lapua Magnum for my long range needs but even reloading its expensive. Check out the two holes at 9 oclock on this target. The 5.56 looks as sleek and racy as a cheetah while the .50 Beowulf resembles acaballito. 300 Blackout vs 7.62x39: Everything You Need To Know We have provided recommending starting charges, which should be safe in every modern, correctly manufactured, and maintained firearm of the appropriate caliber. Quote RUTGERS95 NJGF Cornerstone Premier Member 874 3,532 posts Location: middletown, nj Home Range: cjrpc Trader Feedback 10 0 0 Total Rating 100% Posted August 10, 2013 neither, look at the 6.8 and call it a day That 400-grain soft-point load drops almost 12 inches by the time it travels 200 yards when zeroed for 100. http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2013/12/16/wtf-firearm-cannon/, Look up .950 JDJ. Adapting new calibers to the AR-15 rifle is nothing new, and cartridges like the 300 Blackout, 224 Valkyrie, 6.8 SPC, and 6.5 Grendel have all been moderately successful. LeGendre cites Lt. Col. Jeff Coopers writings on the Thumper concept as his inspiration for creating the 450 BM. I have a .223 AR which I enjoy and am proficient with. But still impressive. Although it fires a lighter bullet, the 458 SOCOM has a maximum effective range of around 250 yards on large game while the less efficient bullet design of the Beowulf limits its effective range to 150 yards. Everyone overlooked the fact that you can have a 50 Beowulf PISTOL! Concerning the weight of the wulf upper. AA will sell you twenty 350g Hornady XTPs for only $29.23. Can load my AP bullets in the 300 too. Its a perfect illustration of why mag limits are stupid and any politician who votes in favor of them should be recalled. A lengthened 50 Action Express, or 50 AE, was utilized for both cartridges, though the 50 Beowulf has a longer case at 1.65 compared to 1.575 for the 458. 3600gr bullet, 38,000ft lb. A .308 Winchester ranges from 11 to 18 with most loads in the 15 and 16 foot-pound range. Copyright 2023 National Rifle Association, Women On Target Instructional Shooting Clinics, Volunteer At The Great American Outdoor Show, Marion P. Hammer Women Of Distinction Award, Women's Wildlife Management / Conservation Scholarship, National Youth Shooting Sports Cooperative Program, PolyCase Ammunition and Alexander Arms Team Up on .50 Beowulf ARX, 3 Powerful AR-15 Cartridges for Survival Use. A 300 grain .45 Govt bullet clocks in at about 1800 fps at the muzzle and 1500 fps at 100 yards, with energy of about 2200 and 1500 ft.-lb. I got mine when they first came out. Glad to know Im not the only one that was thinking 45-70 the whole time. The 450 BM and 458 SOCOM have the same rim diameter of 0.473, which is the same as the 308 Winchester, 30-06 Springfield, and 270 Win. .458 SOCOM, and the .50 Beowulf. Although there are minor differences between these three rounds, all of them have similar performance out to 150 yards. Example my 338lapua,I have never shot it,never had enough real-estate but hey I got one lol the same with the Beowulf, Some things are just for shits and giggles, I love my Beowulf many years shooted shotguns muzzleloaders couldnt get that long-range to kill the nice big bucks dont have to worry about that with the Beowulf knock down power is phenomenal one shot one kill. Im thinking that the original Beowulf would have much rather entered that dragons lair with an Alexander Arms .50 Beowulf. The carbine, all fitted out with stuff, is a tad heavy. You would think a pistol caliber build, which uses smaller rounds overall, would require a lighter buffer weight. Big game hunters and passionate reloaders will award it five. But if I could only own one or the other, I would have to choose the .50 Beowulf. I ordered some on the 21st and recived them on the 25th. Its not a (clip), its a magazine. What will they think of next. Pistol Buffer 5.0-8.5 oz. Using the proper bullet thats designed to remain in one piece, theres plenty of momentum to get that job done too. Later, to get the renewal on his man card, he has to travel somewhere to slay a dragon but is mortally wounded in the process. However, this massive case capacity is needed for the massive 0.458" diameter bullets that the SOCOM round fires. I bought one of Mr. Alexanders early .50 Beowulfs, and Im here to tell you, theyre a ton of fun. The rush of hot gases is powerful enough to blow your hair back as effectively, but perhaps not as pleasantly, as a Trojan brand personal joy buzzer. Would have to assume its at max powder. In fact, outside of the first 100-yards, the differences are effective entirely negligible. A normalslug gun runs in at less than half of this price, and shoots ammunition thats commonly available so, you can have more fun, cheaper, than with this thing. Jacketed 45 ACP bullets measure 0.451 in diameter while the 450 Bushmaster requires the slightly wider 0.452 diameter bullets. 6.5 Grendel vs 6.5 Creedmoor: Which 6.5 Cartridge Is Right For You? However, custom ammo manufacturers often make their own 50 Beowulf loads under the metric designation 12.7x42mm. I mostly went with this caliber because it makes a nice SBR, found out about suppressor abilities and I'm itching to slap one on there now. Lehigh Defense Load Data Library | Lehigh Bullets Reloading The 450 Bushmaster dominates in terms of muzzle velocity as it leaves the barrel at a whopping 2,200 fps, which is 300 fps faster than the 458 SOCOM and 425 fps faster than the 50 Beowulf. I have used different lowers with the same result. Since the bullet is .50 caliber, you can easily find projectiles if you choose to reload, and Alexander Arms and others publish tested reloading data. There are many different kinds of pistols out there, and whats right for one person might not be right for you. You can have an upper chambered in literally anything, it just might only be single shot. I bought two of the Beowulf barrels when they first came out me and my son both built guns never had a problem with misfires powder backing up nothing jamming my gun runs just as fast as I can pull the trigger little rough on the shoulder but it works just fine.
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